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From Beginner to Better: Whip Finishes

The “Beginner to Better” posts relay small tips used by experienced or commercial tyers to improve speed, quality, or simply enumerate some of the physics behind our tying that beginners are unaware of until much later in their skill progression. Most tend to be overlooked in the Youtube narrations, as even video footage cannot convey physics or the rationale behind the inclusion or omission of a step.

Big Unwieldy heads caused by a dependance on beaded flies

The dominance of beaded flies is hamstringing a lot of new fly tiers, as the presence of a bead eliminates the portion of the fly that would have been the tie off points for the last few materials, and the formation of a slender, graceful head.

Too big of a head, caused by bead usage

Beads mask the finesse of the fly’s finish, and turn it into a thread lump – often as tall or taller than the bead itself. Tiers no longer plan the fly’s finish, they simply lump everything in one spot along with seventy five turns of thread. Gone is the learned thread discipline, keeping turns to the minimum, and with its departure are the “feathered” tie off points that spread the fly finish and thread over a larger area, rather than simply focusing everything in the gap behind the bead.

Instead of ample room and a gentle slope, whip finishes are crammed on top of the seventy turns already present, and the knot can tighten poorly, prove unstable, or the thread can snap due to a poor draw. We’ll cover each eventuality below.

Whip Finish Physics

Whip finishes are a thread running the length of the knot, covered by multiple turns of more thread, that when tightened, cover that tag end when the thread is cut. Of vital importance, is to only make those turns of thread in one direction, down the hook towards the eye. In this manner the thread is covered by the subsequent turns and the knot draws cleanly and tightens properly.

Should you make a sloppy knot, where the first three turns move towards the eye, and the subsequent three turns move away from the eye, the underlying thread will have an “S” curve in it and the knot will tighten less well. If you are using excessive thread, eight or nine turns in your whip finish, and you spray those all over, up and down the fly, the knot will have multiple “S” turns in the underlying thread, and will likely not draw tight at all – or the thread will snap when you attempt to tighten the knot.

Rule 1: Learn to tie whip finishes with the same number of turns of thread.

Rule 2: Whip finishes must start at the top of the head and move in one direction only, towards the eye of the hook. On a beaded fly, the knot starts at the point furthest from the bead and moves towards the bead with each subsequent turn.

Typically I use a four turn whip finish on everything. If the head is large and exposed, like a big saltwater fly, I might take a few more turns, but will adhere to the “each turn closer to the eye” requirement.

Thread Physics

Thread also influences the whip finish in a variety of ways. Fine threads, 6/0 and smaller, are weak and more susceptible to thread ailments. Besides the hammy handed fly tier, the biggest ailments for thread are age and spin.

Age:

Nylon threads age well if kept in the proper conditions, and age really poorly if you don’t keep them properly. The nemisis of nylon is sunlight, so if you are in the habit of putting your extra thread spool onto a dowel on your tool caddy, which along with your tying desk, is near the window … you can expect your fine threads to die a rapid and horrible death.

Nylon threads must be kept in a drawer or opaque container. They will last forever under those conditions. I have several hundred spools of 6/0 that are nearly forty years old, and show no signs of deterioration due to my keeping them out of sunlight and excessive heat.

Spin:

If you spin your bobbin excessively you will turn your single strand of nylon thread into a round thread. As your bobbin hangs under the fly while tying it will spin in different directions due to your striking it with your hands or the materials you’re manipulating. If your bobbin spins excessively in one direction (without being allowed to spin opposite) you could have a slightly weaker thread due to the constriction of the thread induced by the spin.

Should you immediately spray nine turns of a whip finish all over the head of your fly, the weakness will show due to the increased resistance of multiple “S” turns trapped in the knot, and the weakened thread can snap when tightened.

Letting the bobbin “rest” just prior to the whip finish, will allow it spin to equilibrium, removing the tightness of weave due to your spinning the tool for some purpose, like a dubbed loop or brush.

The above ZugBug illustrates the overly large head where the thread head actually protrudes onto the bead. While the fly is fine proportionally, and will fish wonderfully, the combination of tungsten beads (and whether this is a slotted or countersunk bead), will have the fly bouncing along the bottom making contact with the rocks and timbers that make up the creek bed.

If the bead rides slightly offcenter, which can happen with slotted beads, the fly may be bouncing merrily down the creek upside down, and the thread being “taller” than the bead … the knot will be making contact with all the boulders, and not the bead. Heavily weighted flies take lots of abuse and the overly large whip finish area will be a liability due to the damage that area will recieve.

Rule 3: Beaded flies are fine, when tying them ensure your whip finish is smaller than the bead, so the bead absorbs all the instream impacts and not the knot area.

Us old tiers cried bitterly on the news of its demise

NYMO was the first unwoven nylon sewing thread that revolutionized fly tying

NYMO, by the Belding Cortecelli Company, was the first nylon sewing thread that relegated all the buttonhole twists, silks, and cotton threads of yesteryear to the scrap heap. As a young tier, I marveled at its strength and how it could be spun via a bobbin into both a round small thread, and unspun to generate a flat thread that added little bulk. We gleefully spun the bobbin to produce the round variant that would knife through deer hair, and attached feathers and hackle tip wings via the flat, “no bulk”, flavor. It was revolutionary to the fly tying realm and changed our perspective of threads and their capabilities forever.

… and then came the news they were taking it away

As this predates the Internet and online shopping, a large city might have access to a fly shop, whose stock was quickly cleaned out, and the rest of us were left ransacking sewing stores, millinery outlets, and wandering around any premises that sold fabric, hoping to find a thread section.

While the thread was magical in the fly tying circles, it sucked horribly as a sewing thread. The “Use warm Iron” admonishment on every spool, meant just that … as using a hot iron would melt nylon and the garment fell apart. This didn’t sit well with the sewing community, nor the dry cleaners, so the Belding Cortescelli Company removed the thread from the mainstay outlets.

I remember spying a few spools of size “A” White at one of the International Anglers Expositions, and as I pointed a shaking finger at the treasure and fumbled for my billfold, was grilled by the proprietor as to how, ” …had I never used it before, I shouldn’t … as it was being pulled off the market.”

I was successful in laying in a small stock of Size A, in black and white, then resigned myself to the notion that on their consumption it was back to the crappy threads of yore.

Fortunately, Monocord emerged shortly after NYMO disappeared, and I, as well as my fellow fly tiers, learned that tying tiny dry flies with “000” (3/0,three-ought) was infinitely superior than the thicker, Size “A” NYMO we had squirreled away. NYMO had been available in 3/0 as well, but when the run started on its dwindling stocks, only “A” was available for hoarding.

What brought back all those distant memories was my recent discovery that NYMO has been reintroduced by Belding Cortiscelli, and is marketed as a “beading thread.” Beading thread is a heavy, coarse thread designed for constructing beaded bracelets and other bead jewelry. Most commonly used by jewelry makers in Size “D”, for strength, the venerable NYMO is available in few fly tying sizes as well. The smallest I’ve found is “00” (2/0, or two-ought), which isn’t likely to unseat our existing threads like Danville’s 6/0 Flymaster, 8/0 Ultra, or UNI threads, but it could prove economical for tying larger flies like steelhead, bass, and saltwater flies.

NYMO Thread
A cone of NYMO tying thread

In addition, the packaging of NYMO offers both “Cones” and spools designed for sewing machines, which fit the Matarelli Midge bobbin, something our current spools do not. As thread hasn’t been available in cones to us fly tiers since the late seventies, most tiers will not find the 3 ounce and 6 ounce (or 1lb) cones attractive. In the olden days, we would decant thread off a cone by placing a spool on a power drill and loading the thread from the cone onto the empty spool akin to adding backing to a fly reel. The six ounce cones cost somewhere between $22 and $55, depending on the source, and hold about 5000 yards of thread, nearly 50 – 100yd spools. The sewing machine spools are 145 yard spools (size 2/0) and range anywhere from about a dollar, to about $4.50 per spool. It pays to refine your search to get the best pricing, and you need to frequent beading and craft stores, not fly shops. Etsy and Ebay are your friends as well.

NYMO on sewing machine bobbins

I was able to secure quite a few individual spools for about $1 per spool. I grabbed some black, white, and blue, in the 2/0 size, as I am making a lot of salt water flies for a donation project I am working on. I routinely find these on Ebay, sold in various colors and sizes, in odd lots sold by private individuals. It appears they use thread colors for a specific project, then move onto other jewelry using other thread colors. Remnants of their past project are then sold on Ebay or Etsy at a reduced price.

Given the wide variety in pricing for the thread, I would only purchase it on sale or on the cone. If you opt for the cone, save empty plastic bobbins first to give you something to offload onto, as the cone is unusable until you transfer the thread to spools useful for your traditional (or midge) bobbin. Store all threads out of direct sunlight, as that is nylon’s nemisis. I am using size “A” NYMO that is nearly fifty years old, and due to dark storage, it has retained its strength without decay.

Many new colors are available that were not present in the past, so we can thank the jewelry and craft folks for insisting on all the muaves, puces, and goldenrods, we enjoy today. As a cautionary note, do not assume you are getting the 2/0 size unless it is plainly marked (or advertised) as such. The most common sizes used for beading appears to be “D”, which is considerably larger than anything we use today.

It’s nice to have a few alternatives to the fly tying brands, given how inexpensive threads are to manufacture.