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		<title>By: Dagens citat &#171; Pontus Adefjord</title>
		<link>http://singlebarbed.com/2009/03/24/can-clarity-exist-in-brown-water/comment-page-1/#comment-7114</link>
		<dc:creator>Dagens citat &#171; Pontus Adefjord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The latest trend in outdoor activities: Is bad the new good? &#171; Sand Dollar Adventures</title>
		<link>http://singlebarbed.com/2009/03/24/can-clarity-exist-in-brown-water/comment-page-1/#comment-5066</link>
		<dc:creator>The latest trend in outdoor activities: Is bad the new good? &#171; Sand Dollar Adventures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fly Fishing Frenzy</title>
		<link>http://singlebarbed.com/2009/03/24/can-clarity-exist-in-brown-water/comment-page-1/#comment-3585</link>
		<dc:creator>Fly Fishing Frenzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also rather catch a trout (what ever size) in a clear running river.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also rather catch a trout (what ever size) in a clear running river.</p>
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		<title>By: KBarton10</title>
		<link>http://singlebarbed.com/2009/03/24/can-clarity-exist-in-brown-water/comment-page-1/#comment-3577</link>
		<dc:creator>KBarton10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB,

Your points are well taken. I suppose in this age of specialization, folks are comfortable being identified as a subset of the whole.

My take on all of this is identical to your own, if through misfortune or poor genetics we&#039;re afflicted with fishing lust - then the act of fishing is all that&#039;s important, the how and the what is immaterial.

In defense of those that have the banners - you only need look at the tepid reactions of some of the other blogs to understand their righteous fervor.

Mainstream media wants desperately to overlook this &quot;seamy underbelly&quot; of fly fishing, and they&#039;re aided and abetted by some of the traditional bias we&#039;ve all seen before and endured.

For some, that&#039;s a call to arms, for others it&#039;s shrugged off as the Ghost of Angling Past.

I was thrilled at mainstream coverage, it&#039;s one more avenue where we get to raise the public awareness to some of these longterm environmental issues. 

You would think that with the small number of votes we (fly fishermen) can muster, we could look beyond the fractious silliness for seven minutes - in order to do some good.

Instead, most took umbrage at the &quot;invented&quot; word - when the correct term should have been &quot;popularized.&quot;

&quot;Invented&quot; is a four letter word, as everyone knows somebody, that knew this dude, whose brother did it first.

I think that&#039;s the root of the evil and partisanship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB,</p>
<p>Your points are well taken. I suppose in this age of specialization, folks are comfortable being identified as a subset of the whole.</p>
<p>My take on all of this is identical to your own, if through misfortune or poor genetics we&#8217;re afflicted with fishing lust &#8211; then the act of fishing is all that&#8217;s important, the how and the what is immaterial.</p>
<p>In defense of those that have the banners &#8211; you only need look at the tepid reactions of some of the other blogs to understand their righteous fervor.</p>
<p>Mainstream media wants desperately to overlook this &#8220;seamy underbelly&#8221; of fly fishing, and they&#8217;re aided and abetted by some of the traditional bias we&#8217;ve all seen before and endured.</p>
<p>For some, that&#8217;s a call to arms, for others it&#8217;s shrugged off as the Ghost of Angling Past.</p>
<p>I was thrilled at mainstream coverage, it&#8217;s one more avenue where we get to raise the public awareness to some of these longterm environmental issues. </p>
<p>You would think that with the small number of votes we (fly fishermen) can muster, we could look beyond the fractious silliness for seven minutes &#8211; in order to do some good.</p>
<p>Instead, most took umbrage at the &#8220;invented&#8221; word &#8211; when the correct term should have been &#8220;popularized.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Invented&#8221; is a four letter word, as everyone knows somebody, that knew this dude, whose brother did it first.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s the root of the evil and partisanship.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://singlebarbed.com/2009/03/24/can-clarity-exist-in-brown-water/comment-page-1/#comment-3576</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we all agree that the article missed the mark, but perhaps I&#039;m missing something. The Brownlining thing seems to be a little bit over sensationalized. I&#039;ve seen some blogs the sport Brownlining logos etc. and it seems to be getting even a little bit &quot;clicky&quot;. 
I fish in my own backyard too. We can&#039;t all get away to a world class spot and we all love to fish so we fish wherever we can,whenever we can. 
Fish blue, fish brown... the point is go and fish. So do we need to categorize ourselves further? 
I donno, seems like somebody needs something to feel special about. Instead of being proud of dropping a fly next to a floating diaper, why not spend a weekend picking up a few. Isn&#039;t that what we should all be focused on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we all agree that the article missed the mark, but perhaps I&#8217;m missing something. The Brownlining thing seems to be a little bit over sensationalized. I&#8217;ve seen some blogs the sport Brownlining logos etc. and it seems to be getting even a little bit &#8220;clicky&#8221;.<br />
I fish in my own backyard too. We can&#8217;t all get away to a world class spot and we all love to fish so we fish wherever we can,whenever we can.<br />
Fish blue, fish brown&#8230; the point is go and fish. So do we need to categorize ourselves further?<br />
I donno, seems like somebody needs something to feel special about. Instead of being proud of dropping a fly next to a floating diaper, why not spend a weekend picking up a few. Isn&#8217;t that what we should all be focused on?</p>
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		<title>By: the roughfisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>the roughfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this KB, as I lacked the energy to yield such a vehicle.  I don&#039;t believe reading anywhere on a brownliner blog about the condoning of environmental apathy and destruction.  Most of the brownliners I&#039;ve come across are some of the most environmentally concerned fellows out there.

I also found fallacy with many of the posters comments regarding carp living in dirty ugly places.  Opportunists like John Montana, Wendy Berrell, and my self will quickly tell you that carp thrive in clean beautiful water too.  It just that the other blueliners we are sharing the same water with are too busy drooling over their stunted 6&quot; brookie to see us landing a 20# behemoth.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  I look at neither the landscape or anthropogenic influence when fly fishing; I focus on the fish.  It is the pursuit and chase I seek; the brown water just happens to be there sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this KB, as I lacked the energy to yield such a vehicle.  I don&#8217;t believe reading anywhere on a brownliner blog about the condoning of environmental apathy and destruction.  Most of the brownliners I&#8217;ve come across are some of the most environmentally concerned fellows out there.</p>
<p>I also found fallacy with many of the posters comments regarding carp living in dirty ugly places.  Opportunists like John Montana, Wendy Berrell, and my self will quickly tell you that carp thrive in clean beautiful water too.  It just that the other blueliners we are sharing the same water with are too busy drooling over their stunted 6&#8243; brookie to see us landing a 20# behemoth.</p>
<p>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  I look at neither the landscape or anthropogenic influence when fly fishing; I focus on the fish.  It is the pursuit and chase I seek; the brown water just happens to be there sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: SMJ</title>
		<link>http://singlebarbed.com/2009/03/24/can-clarity-exist-in-brown-water/comment-page-1/#comment-3549</link>
		<dc:creator>SMJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  Excellent arguments and commentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Excellent arguments and commentary.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Wannabe Travelwriter</title>
		<link>http://singlebarbed.com/2009/03/24/can-clarity-exist-in-brown-water/comment-page-1/#comment-3547</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Wannabe Travelwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Sanctioning” nature&#039;s destruction? Maybe that person should look closer at the natural resources that are impacted every day by their lifestyle, assuming they live in a house, eat food, and drive a car.

Just because they are not driving over to a local creek and dumping their household trash and used couch does not mean they are without guilt in contributing to our declining environment.

Some of us, brownliners included, are actually doing something locally to clean up the creeks, pressure the politicians, and contribute to slowing the sullying of our streams.

(You still have a 201K???  All I have left is my 101K.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Sanctioning” nature&#8217;s destruction? Maybe that person should look closer at the natural resources that are impacted every day by their lifestyle, assuming they live in a house, eat food, and drive a car.</p>
<p>Just because they are not driving over to a local creek and dumping their household trash and used couch does not mean they are without guilt in contributing to our declining environment.</p>
<p>Some of us, brownliners included, are actually doing something locally to clean up the creeks, pressure the politicians, and contribute to slowing the sullying of our streams.</p>
<p>(You still have a 201K???  All I have left is my 101K.)</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Some Damned Fine Writing Today: On Brownliners and Life&#8230;. Best Fly Fishing Yellowstone.com: Flyfishing in Yellowstone, Montana, and Around</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Some Damned Fine Writing Today: On Brownliners and Life&#8230;. Best Fly Fishing Yellowstone.com: Flyfishing in Yellowstone, Montana, and Around</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Barton of Singlebarbed fame has a great post up today about brownlining – read Can Clarity Exist in Brown Water here.   I’ve always been comfortable with the Bull in the China shop approach, it’s a mixture of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Trout Underground</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trout Underground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read a few other comments about the article, and the factionalization of the fly fishing blogosphere has never been more apparent. 

The mainstream tried to look away in distaste (but couldn&#039;t quite make it), but I did find the guy&#039;s comment about &quot;giving up in the fight to preserve nature spots&quot; interesting, even if largely wrong.

In truth, we could see an affect like that if brownlining acquires an anti-bluelining patina - which makes about as much sense as deer hunters hating on elk hunters because they&#039;re snobs.

In truth - outside of the well-known fact that all brownliners are descended directly from the Neanderthals - there isn&#039;t much difference (one needs a giardia cure, the other a home heavy metals chelating kit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a few other comments about the article, and the factionalization of the fly fishing blogosphere has never been more apparent. </p>
<p>The mainstream tried to look away in distaste (but couldn&#8217;t quite make it), but I did find the guy&#8217;s comment about &#8220;giving up in the fight to preserve nature spots&#8221; interesting, even if largely wrong.</p>
<p>In truth, we could see an affect like that if brownlining acquires an anti-bluelining patina &#8211; which makes about as much sense as deer hunters hating on elk hunters because they&#8217;re snobs.</p>
<p>In truth &#8211; outside of the well-known fact that all brownliners are descended directly from the Neanderthals &#8211; there isn&#8217;t much difference (one needs a giardia cure, the other a home heavy metals chelating kit).</p>
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