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	<title>Comments on: Part 1: Spey Kung Fu : Because regular fly fishing just isn&#8217;t mysterious enough</title>
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		<title>By: KBarton10</title>
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		<dc:creator>KBarton10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 02:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you won&#039;t have a feel for a good pairing, I can&#039;t stress enough finding someone who knows and ensuring the line and rod are well matched.

Imagine trying to learn how to cast with a 8 weight rod paired with a 3 weight line. It&#039;s possible, just neither instinctive or pleasant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you won&#8217;t have a feel for a good pairing, I can&#8217;t stress enough finding someone who knows and ensuring the line and rod are well matched.</p>
<p>Imagine trying to learn how to cast with a 8 weight rod paired with a 3 weight line. It&#8217;s possible, just neither instinctive or pleasant.</p>
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		<title>By: bvc</title>
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		<dc:creator>bvc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 02:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right about the confusion on lines versus rods and then the style of casting.I&#039;m trying to outfit a reddington 14&#039;rs3 weight 8 rod. I also bought a reddington 11/12 reel. I&#039;m leaning toward the airflow 9 weight or the skagit 9 weight rio. Any advice the salesman are throwing out too many variables. I&#039;m just trying to get started with something decent that I won&#039;t be totally frustrated with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right about the confusion on lines versus rods and then the style of casting.I&#8217;m trying to outfit a reddington 14&#8242;rs3 weight 8 rod. I also bought a reddington 11/12 reel. I&#8217;m leaning toward the airflow 9 weight or the skagit 9 weight rio. Any advice the salesman are throwing out too many variables. I&#8217;m just trying to get started with something decent that I won&#8217;t be totally frustrated with.</p>
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		<title>By: Spey Kung Fu at upstream</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spey Kung Fu at upstream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Singlebarbed goes to the spey side &#8220;Because regular fly fishing just isn’t mysterious enough&#8221;  Make sure you read Part 2 as well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Singlebarbed goes to the spey side &#8220;Because regular fly fishing just isn’t mysterious enough&#8221;  Make sure you read Part 2 as well. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KBarton10</title>
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		<dc:creator>KBarton10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tip Curly, I&#039;m thinking the Windcutter or an Airflo might just be what&#039;s needed. Rajeff (Echo) apparently swears by the Airflo, and the Windcutter is much talked about - appears to be extremely popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip Curly, I&#8217;m thinking the Windcutter or an Airflo might just be what&#8217;s needed. Rajeff (Echo) apparently swears by the Airflo, and the Windcutter is much talked about &#8211; appears to be extremely popular.</p>
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		<title>By: Curly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure I&#039;m comfortable with the &#039;spey&#039; or &#039;switch&#039; tags. Might be less confusing to do as the Europeans do and just call a two-handed rod a &#039;two-handed rod&#039;.

Been using these for U.C. trout fishing for about the last ten years and also went through a confusing period with lines. I don&#039;t like the cost of multi-tip systems, and I particularly don&#039;t like loop connections. As I&#039;m fishing my homewater 90% of the time, and half of that is spent delivering #14-#16 nymphs and emergers on long casts to visible trout, I want the gear to fish clean as possible. I&#039;m using an 11&#039;6&quot; Cabela&#039;s Traditional 6wt (sweet-slow action)(around 100-bucks and no longer available)and a 12&#039;6&quot; Deer Creek 5/6wt (medium-fast). The Echo and the Cabela&#039;s Fish Eagle (moderate actions) are also popular with locals, and I&#039;ve casted these as well. We&#039;ve found that the Rio Windcutter and the Wolff Triangle Taper, in the heaviest line designation given for the rod, work well with these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I&#8217;m comfortable with the &#8217;spey&#8217; or &#8217;switch&#8217; tags. Might be less confusing to do as the Europeans do and just call a two-handed rod a &#8216;two-handed rod&#8217;.</p>
<p>Been using these for U.C. trout fishing for about the last ten years and also went through a confusing period with lines. I don&#8217;t like the cost of multi-tip systems, and I particularly don&#8217;t like loop connections. As I&#8217;m fishing my homewater 90% of the time, and half of that is spent delivering #14-#16 nymphs and emergers on long casts to visible trout, I want the gear to fish clean as possible. I&#8217;m using an 11&#8242;6&#8243; Cabela&#8217;s Traditional 6wt (sweet-slow action)(around 100-bucks and no longer available)and a 12&#8242;6&#8243; Deer Creek 5/6wt (medium-fast). The Echo and the Cabela&#8217;s Fish Eagle (moderate actions) are also popular with locals, and I&#8217;ve casted these as well. We&#8217;ve found that the Rio Windcutter and the Wolff Triangle Taper, in the heaviest line designation given for the rod, work well with these.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Lipton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Lipton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be working with a Beulah switch 7/8 in 2009.  I&#039;ll be posting the progress of how it goes on my blog.  

My guess is it won&#039;t be much different than what I&#039;m already doing on my 10&#039; 8wt, except the bottom handle will be a couple of inches longer than the fighting butt.  Where the difference will lie will be in the line.  I picked up an Elixir 380; we&#039;ll see how that casts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be working with a Beulah switch 7/8 in 2009.  I&#8217;ll be posting the progress of how it goes on my blog.  </p>
<p>My guess is it won&#8217;t be much different than what I&#8217;m already doing on my 10&#8242; 8wt, except the bottom handle will be a couple of inches longer than the fighting butt.  Where the difference will lie will be in the line.  I picked up an Elixir 380; we&#8217;ll see how that casts.</p>
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		<title>By: KBarton10</title>
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		<dc:creator>KBarton10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Switch rods would work peachy, it&#039;s merely a matter of what kind of budget you&#039;re blessed with ... I&#039;ve got multiple seasons; Steelhead, Shad, normal brownwater stuff - figured I&#039;d start with the Shad rod - as they show in May.

..by then I&#039;ll be more danger to them than to myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switch rods would work peachy, it&#8217;s merely a matter of what kind of budget you&#8217;re blessed with &#8230; I&#8217;ve got multiple seasons; Steelhead, Shad, normal brownwater stuff &#8211; figured I&#8217;d start with the Shad rod &#8211; as they show in May.</p>
<p>..by then I&#8217;ll be more danger to them than to myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Guy Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Guy Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;MyDickInTrout&quot;, doesn&#039;t he post over at The Drake?

The last time I felt the terrifying noob-tactular sensation was over thanksgiving when my cousin talked me into playing golf and we got paired up with 2 club pros. Two shanks and a worm-burner later I was ready to stuff my head in the ball washer.

What about switch rods? Aaron and I have been thinking about these cause they seem a little more universal, thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;MyDickInTrout&#8221;, doesn&#8217;t he post over at The Drake?</p>
<p>The last time I felt the terrifying noob-tactular sensation was over thanksgiving when my cousin talked me into playing golf and we got paired up with 2 club pros. Two shanks and a worm-burner later I was ready to stuff my head in the ball washer.</p>
<p>What about switch rods? Aaron and I have been thinking about these cause they seem a little more universal, thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: KBarton10</title>
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		<dc:creator>KBarton10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s exactly my goal, skilled enough to perform a &quot;weak&quot; spey with a traditional 9 foot singlehand rod and a DT or WF.

I see that as the &quot;bang for the buck&quot; - spey casting by itself may be less useful, unless you frequent the hallowed Steelhead and Salmon rivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s exactly my goal, skilled enough to perform a &#8220;weak&#8221; spey with a traditional 9 foot singlehand rod and a DT or WF.</p>
<p>I see that as the &#8220;bang for the buck&#8221; &#8211; spey casting by itself may be less useful, unless you frequent the hallowed Steelhead and Salmon rivers.</p>
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		<title>By: DayTripper</title>
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		<dc:creator>DayTripper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve stumbled upon the reason spey claves are so popular- you get to try different lines on different rods so you can find out what combo feels right without going bankrupt in the process.  Even with help of an experienced spey caster, the first line I bought for my two hander was a little light for the rod.  It still worked, but not the way it was supposed to.  

Basic spey casts such as the single, double and circle aren&#039;t all that hard to do once you&#039;ve got the jest of it.  One thing I discovered was that once you know the casting mechanics, the casts easily translate over to my 9&#039; rods.  You just don&#039;t get the same distance.  Which for most guys isn&#039;t a big deal since most rivers, or stretches of water, that don&#039;t give you room for a backcast aren&#039;t the mississippi.  I&#039;m no casting yoda, and I can get about 50&#039;-60&#039; with the three casts mentioned above, with a 9&#039; rod and a WF-F line fairly consistently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve stumbled upon the reason spey claves are so popular- you get to try different lines on different rods so you can find out what combo feels right without going bankrupt in the process.  Even with help of an experienced spey caster, the first line I bought for my two hander was a little light for the rod.  It still worked, but not the way it was supposed to.  </p>
<p>Basic spey casts such as the single, double and circle aren&#8217;t all that hard to do once you&#8217;ve got the jest of it.  One thing I discovered was that once you know the casting mechanics, the casts easily translate over to my 9&#8242; rods.  You just don&#8217;t get the same distance.  Which for most guys isn&#8217;t a big deal since most rivers, or stretches of water, that don&#8217;t give you room for a backcast aren&#8217;t the mississippi.  I&#8217;m no casting yoda, and I can get about 50&#8242;-60&#8242; with the three casts mentioned above, with a 9&#8242; rod and a WF-F line fairly consistently.</p>
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